“That’s what I was going for.”

For nearly an hour we talked about her photographs.

She did not ask about my daughters, and I did not force the subject.

Eventually she said, “I don’t want Chloe and Sophie to hate me because of what Mom said.”

“They haven’t said anything about you.”

“Maybe you could tell them I’m sorry she called them names.”

“That’s your apology to make if you ever meet them.

But I can tell them you didn’t agree.”