He was not being clever and he was not confessing.

He answered a logistics question about a Thursday, honestly, because I had asked it in a flat voice about a schedule.

Rosaura Pizarro watched that interview and she told me afterward that if it had been recorded — it was not, by agreement, which was a condition of his counsel — she would have had him on the top count without a plea.

She also said: “And you knew what you were doing when you asked that.”