Julian raised it as a legal matter, because that is what he is for.

He said: Mark’s guardianship is going to be terminated.

Chloe has no biological or adoptive relationship.

There is going to have to be a guardianship petition and it will be granted, probably, given the circumstances, but there is a maternal family in this file and they have to be notified because that’s how it works.

And Chloe said — I can hear it — “He’s six.”

And I said, “We’ll tell him when he’s older.”