“So it comes down to what happened to Gwen,” I said.

Ellis looked at me. “It comes down to what happened to you. Yes.”

“Then it comes down to me testifying.”

“Yes.”

Gavin said, “No.” We both turned.

“She’s fourteen months out,” he said. “She’s got scans in June. She is not sitting in a room with Kesler for six hours getting asked whether she made up cancer. Find another way.”