Where it came from inside my household is a matter between me and my wife and it has nothing to do with this company.”

Hank Ostrander, who is an outside director, seventy-one, a retired regional bank executive, and the quietest man in any room he has ever been in, is recorded as asking one question in the whole three hours.

He said: “Mr.

Vance.

Did you tell Arthur in 2008 that the money came from an uncle in Rhode Island?”

And Julian said, “I don’t recall the specific conversation.”

And Hank Ostrander said, “Thank you,” and sat back.