“The second is that I’ve known about your daughters since November of 2010.

She told me in the second month.

She has never lied to me about it, not once, and any story you’ve heard where I found out later is not true.

“The third is that in 2013 I told her to go back and see them.

I told her more than once.

I drove her to Stockton that Saturday and I sat in a parking lot two hundred yards away and waited for an hour and a half and she came back and got in the car and said it was finished.

“I’m not telling you that so you’ll feel bad.