I think four seconds.

And what he said, at the end of it, was: “Okay.”

Not what. Not what are you talking about. Not one second of denial.

He took four seconds, he recognized the position, and he said okay, which is what a man says when a deal has closed against him.

I said: “I’m not going to shout at you.

I have one question and then I’m going to hang up and everything after this goes through lawyers.”