He listened to about ninety seconds of me and then he said, “Oh, Christ.

She’s still doing it.”

And then Casper Rask talked for fifty minutes.

The falling-out was this.

In the March of 2012, Corinne told him what she intended to say, and he said he would not say it, and she told him that if he could not support this family then he could stay in Wisconsin.

He said to me on the phone: “I didn’t refuse because I’m a good person.

I refused because I was thirty and furious and I wanted him to be what he was.