On page fourteen she records an exchange from the fourth interview, when Wren was ten and a half.

She had asked her — as guardians are required to, in whatever form works — what Wren thought should happen.

And my daughter said: “I think I should live with my dad and I think my mom should have to come and see me a lot.”

Ms.

Petty asked her why the second part.

And Wren said: “Because if she doesn’t have to, she might not.”

Ten and a half years old.