It is her out-of-court statement about his out-of-court statements.

In most proceedings, for most purposes, it does not come in.

There are exceptions.

There are always exceptions and they are narrow and a court would have had to rule on each one and it would have taken months.

Noreen said: “If we were trying to prove he asked her for money, this helps a little, and he would admit it anyway, because asking your mother for money is not a crime.

“If we were trying to prove he did something to that account, it proves nothing at all.