It was the third night, when Hugo said something that I have quoted since.

He said: “You’re not deciding whether to tell them.

You’re deciding whether they hear it from you or from her.”

I reported it on the fourteenth, to Dovie Mwangi at DCFS, in a follow-up interview, and I reported it flatly, and I said I was reporting it three days late and I said why.

She wrote it down and asked me two questions about the wording and then she said something I was not expecting.

She said: “Ms.